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    Kirahunter
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    The Phoenix


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    Post by Kirahunter 10th July 2014, 11:48 am

    So this idea came to mind when a conflict arose because of my magic and another players magic. A while back I created a magic I called "Phoenix Fire" and I rooted it's abilities, powers and origin in the site's resident superboss The Phoenix. It stirred some people up and to get it approved I had to make a super awesome thread about how I got it.

    Some time later....

    PhoenixRises101 wants to make a magic also based off of The Phoenix. >.> which is causing some problems because the lore behind our magics clash. We are still in the process of trying to make it work.

    This suggestion isn't about finding a solution to that problem. It's an idea I got thinking about how to prevent future situations like this and to encourage members to create characters more steeped into pre-existing lore.

    Thanks to a growing number of high ranked jobs and the dungeon system there are now a large number of powerful boss enemies. I think a system should be in place to allow for easy "Lore Magics" as I have come to call them. Magics based off of an existing site boss.

    Rules for Lore Magic:
    -Each Boss can only have on inheritor of their magic. So a positions thread like the one for slayers and gold keys will be needed.
    -To use a Lore Magic you must create a thread explaining how you inherited the power. Like mine https://www.fairytail-rp.com/t7669-bargaining-with-the-beast
    -The Boss is counted as your mentor.
    -The Boss must exist before you start making your magic to be considered Lore Magic.
    -The magic actually has to resemble the bosses magic, the user is allowed to make alterations and take artistic freedoms but at the core the magic must be the same.

    I recommend just a handful of bosses be permitted for lore magic, or else we will have to make a lore magic slot for every job ever. My suggestions are...

    -The Phoenix: From Phoenix Fire. Phoenix themed magic. Naturally taken by myself
    -The Storm King: From The Storm King. Disaster themed magic.
    -Saphagne the Chaos Dragon: From the Beacons. Chaos themed dragon slayer magic.
    -Master Vampire: From Twilight's Nest. Vampire themed magic.
    -The Titan: From Titan Slayer. Strength themed magic.
    -Ryu Charizard: From Ninja Wars. Charizard themed magic?
    -Jinn: Floor 85 of the dungeons. Arabian Nights themed magic.
    -Zagan: Floor 99. Dimensional Rift themed magic.
    -Asaroth: Floor 76. Sloth themed magic.
    -Fortuna: Floor 51. Gambling Themed magic.
    -Mercury: Floor 71. Speed Biker themed magic.

    Dungeon based Lore Magics could be potential rewards from the dungeon system.

    Thoughts? Imput?


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    Post by King Zenshin 10th July 2014, 11:57 am

    Oh wow. I like this, I like this a lot. The boss of my werewolf job could also be like takeover!
    (Thing is though my alt uses chaos magic, so what are we gonna do if someone already has a themed magic matching a superboss?)


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    The Phoenix


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    Post by Kirahunter 10th July 2014, 12:07 pm

    Well it's pretty simple what to do in that case zenface. We leave them alone and let them keep their magic. Since it would be mean to lock down every magic that even resembled a lore magic. I mean we don't ban fire magic because we have a fire dragon slayer.

    This would only be a problem if their magic was already based off of a boss(like me). In which case we just auto-give them the spot.



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    Post by PhoenixRises101 10th July 2014, 12:29 pm

    And in case of mine and yours? Coincidentally the same boss, but mine is psychic and yours is physical link so that would work?


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    Post by Kirahunter 10th July 2014, 12:32 pm

    o-o our instance is the broken exception created because of a lack of rules and systems. Tbh I only allowed an exception because nowhere in the rules am I really given the right to tell you "No I wanna be the only phoenix get lost I was here first." And I'm not a meanie face.

    Once this is in place such exceptions will not be needed or be possible. Since such a scenario as ours won't come again because with this system in place asking to inherit power from the same boss as someone else is like asking to be a duplicate slayer. Which doesn't happen.

    Or another way of doing things we could treat "Psychic" lore mages as the "Lacrima Slayer" version of this.


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    Post by Aria Beleren 10th July 2014, 1:22 pm

    Kira I'm not big on limiting people magic. It's about as bad when this board decided to limit Heavenly body, Storm, and all of the Arc magics down to a certain amount of players. This really rubs me the wrong way because members here have always had the freedom to make magic of their own or, with the creator's permission, make a magic based off their's.

    Users come in here they have the ability to create their own magic, their own lore, and their own characters. It's a double edged sword because there is no real DM or dungeon master to go to about your character and it could run into your own history.

    As human beings, you are to learn to adapt to changes and turn around and go let's do things this way.


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    Post by King Zenshin 10th July 2014, 1:59 pm

    Lol Recreation in a nutshell. Pretty much throws canon out the window. But I can see where Kira is coming from. Conflicting canons can be a little concerning


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    Post by Zeno 11th July 2014, 5:50 am

    Nevertheless, we can keep the freedom, but we can take the good elements out of this suggestion:

    Combining this idea with the dungeon system for example to create a list of unique magic that is obtainable by taking one of the bosses as your mentor.

    I like this a lot, so I'll bring it up to Seijin.


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