This isn't a world of mages but Gods

I was reading into a few posts till I saw a few god damn ridiculous pieces of storylines there and there. I must say this, are we mages or are we gods now? I ain't going to mention the people or posts and regardless of what you say.... This is basically the realm of the gods, not a realm that belonged to mages. I have every right to complain about this.

I'm fine with the idea of Demi-gods living as a Mage but.... Having the powers of a god to a "full extent" really infuriated me.

Also not only that, there are a lot of things we are overlooking when it comes to storylines, I am no exception to this of course but I'm really feeling it, it's getting a bit more ridiculous. Some events are happening without valid explanation, mechanics aren't even explained, events only just happened.

I am getting very upset. If you guys dare say "who the hell do you think you are questioning that" may I say "who the hell you are too?" Most of you are turning into figure heads or whatever. I have you all know that every single thing I do with characters, Dubhlainn and I Merlin, as well as my Super NPCs all have well written explanations because of the validity of concept.

Majority is starting to act like the center of the universe. It's broken... Lore is broken, staff neglected recording history and everything in the plot about the whole ftrp is completely broken and fragmented to the point where you can easily get confused with timelines.

Staff has neglected the creation or idea of history and events, sense is broken, almost everything I'm starting to see here is broken. "Holy magic that can revive the dead who's soul has already left the body" Bull shit. This is just a mere example, you get what I mean. I have not complained about this but I think I'm about to break the tipping point here. On the verge of it.

Well I will say that as people rank up they do get stronger, and a lot of people really enjoy pushing boundaries/and or having one thing that seems kind of BS, but at the same time is used in a bit of a cooler way. If a bit of power level is part of the problem, I think it's fine since anyone can choose how they wish to write out a fight or story.

Continuity wise, yeah there is a bit of a problem, different parties are all doing one-off events that don't advance too much. They give some people stuff, but they don't advance the overall plot heavily. While things may obviously change in the future that's the way it has been. It can be pretty frustrating to not have a consistent narrative, but what kind of suggestions should be made for it? That's really a community decision, does everyone want some form of time skip and history recording topic to add to a large list for a public story and then a unification of plots etc. or do people want to keep things a bit distance and allow for a bit more freedom in their time scale at how they wish to go about things.

If events aren't explained well or the mechanics aren't from a certain point of view, maybe they were in another topic or the writer isn't as skilled? Not everyone enjoys writing supreme detail in every post as occasionally it can be bogged down unless I am misunderstanding you, which is totally possible.

Having the power of a god, or playing a character is a god doesn't mean too much aside from taking more damage from god slayers, and trying to state that you can build up faith in yourself from NPC's from a plot perspective, as anyone could make magic that could match that level, god or no. Maybe the bragging about being a god, or connected to a god is the problem instead? That however could be said of any bragging.

I've already spoke my peace about this, however I must insert epic meme time because you said it:

The issue with the site is that it has always allowed people to have their own stories. You get 50 people all writing their own stories and you get a lot of things that might not make sense to everyone.

There has never been an overall 'site plot' and in truth any big 'site events' are just washed away the next day for the most part.

If we force people into following a specific site plot then we are removing freedom. People come on here to write what  they like. If they aren't rping with you or plan to rp with you then what does it matter what they do? If you don't like how they RP then don't RP with them. The site has never limited people on what their magic can do.

If people want their characters to be the manifestation of a God let them. It gives the God slayers something they can actually fight.


Also, for your example about bringing back the dead i'd like to call bullshit on your bullshit. What's to say the holy magic can't recall the soul into the body to revive the dead? Why does everything have to follow YOUR logic and understanding? Or that of anyone elses to be honest. We come online to write and roleplay. WE don't come on here to worry about the logic of everything we do. We come here perhaps to escape from logic and reality. Fairy Tail in itself had beyond ridiculous stuff in canon at points. Its a fantasy world with its own rules or lack of rules.


Someone once tried to write a 'site history' because they thought it might help. Guess what it fucked over a whole bunch of people's plots because they decided to go back to far.

I don't see much issue to get annoyed about things like this. There are much bigger things up with the site then 'this magic isn't logical' or 'this magic doesn't make sense'. Stop worrying so much and just enjoy yourself. Might be difficult, might not. There is plenty that annoys me on site. I try not to let it bother me

Hope that didn't come across too hostile...

So I believe the first thing your against here is the logic that some people apply to their characters, whether their decisions in magics or related apps leads to some unheard of or could be considered backward thinking. Well that is a consequence of creativity. Here on the site people have absolute freedom with what they want to make and what characters they can have. This has allowed for many of characters and magics to be made and taken real, yours, mine, erika's, and neearly everyone else's on this site. Of course this also has allowed for weird or what can be perceived as "wrong" or "unfair(OP)" effects, but again it's allowed since the limits on creativity on here knows no bounds.

Now absolute creativity also means their is no plot-wide story on here. Yes people have griped about this in the past but I honestly don't think the site was made with a site wide plot involved. Looking at the story link on the homepage is the one thing that leads me to believe this, and I can see why. Think about it, a site wide plot will have some sort of limitations of what can exist in and out of it.

So for a site wide plot it may go about the war of angels and demons, and during this characters who are demons/angels may be forced to bend to the rules introduced to all people on the site, or the plot may prevent angel/demon related magics being made or the unique nephalim may be forbidden. Now why prevent the existence of these? Because the enemies or boss of the plot may have a unique magic that involves using "The true power of the devil/god". And it's not really impact no more if someone creates a magic on a similar or exact idea unless the idea to make it is forbidden. Now this is a example, but the idea is that it's hard to make a unique boss or enemies if they can be easily re-created.

Now I am not saying site-wide plots are impossible, but to consider everything that needs to be able to give rper's the freedom that the site offers while trying to make a impact boss is hard work. Now is that a fault of the site? Yes it is, but the freedom of no story also allows you control of the ones you want to tell. Here your not forced to acknowledge other stories or forced to interact with others. This can be good and bad but keep in mind, would you want to be forced to interact with these god player? From your dislike of them in your post I would say no, and because of lack of story you are allowed this. So in the end, the absolute creativity the site has it's pro's and con's. But like zack said don't worry about it and focus on your own story. I myself also find things on here that I am annoyed by but I know that to let them bother me is going to get me no where. So my advice is just ignore those with "Full extent god powers" and exclude them from your rp's. Again, no one is forcing you to acknowledge them in your writings.

Speed Demon Zack wrote:Also, for your example about bringing back the dead i'd like to call bullshit on your bullshit. What's to say the holy magic can't recall the soul into the body to revive the dead? Why does everything have to follow YOUR logic and understanding? Or that of anyone elses to be honest. 

This right here is one of the most important things to understand about this site.  There is no one way of doing anything. 

King of Hell?  Well congratulations,  there are an infinite number of different possible hells.   A demon prince?  Congratulations, one of countless.   Your magic behaves a certain way?  Fantastic,  good for you.  That person's magic behaves that other way,  and that person over there's behaves more like so and so.  And that person?  Not magic at all.  Fun times.


This is why I'm generally against things that would restrict or constrain things,  such as applying blanket generalizations over magic, abilities, or races.   

Locations on the other hand are a whole other story,  a location is static and needs to be well represented.  But that's not the topic.


Think of the site as a nexus of a multiverse.   No absolutes.  I specifically avoided trying to suggest that Eris was top dog even in the hell she came from and pointed out that it was one of many different sorts of hells.  And even within that one infinite expanse it was, well, infinite.   Plenty of room not to rub uglies against anyone else's themes. 

Where it gets shadier though is with actual locations,  such as Sin.  So many people claim to own, command, are prince of,  king of, or frequent flier of,  Sin.   But I've set up a pretty heavy shop there as you might imagine.

Well, since most everything else has been covered, I would like to address a time-line and recording everything that happened.

It's unrealistic, in a forum RP site, to have the staff record every RP that happens and consider it canon. Some things may have been added that wouldn't necessarily be valid, like opening up a black hole and swallowing the planet up in the black hole. It's possible to have that in an RP topic, but to chronicle that would be foolish. It is possible to have people RP in their own continuity with their own stories where their actions don't necessarily effect the world as a whole for, as Zack and Siren put it, freedom.

If everything was recorded into the site's history/etc, this site would be rampant and in absolute chaos. Not only does it mean a massive amount of work for the admin to re-write descriptions for areas (because you all know, you would all try to blow up a town or something if that was the case), but it would also throw the entire setting into pure chaos.

If you really want a dissonance in continuity, look no further than jobs. How many times are mages dumb enough to go to Toylaten and get turned into toys? How many towns, exactly, are afflicted with the Werewolf curse? How many times can you find the 4 cardinal beasts in the divided islands, etc etc.

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TL;DR -- Follow your own continuity. If you like someone else's storyline/continuity, feel free to enter their world and RP with them. I see people's continuity as a single universe and FTRP being a multiverse hub where all of those universes come together in a similar setting (eris mentioned something like this)

God I hope some of that made some sense.

I've got 1 thing to say to you Merline/Dubh.


Let us do us, and we'll let you do you. Its plot, you don't need to rp with said person truly if it bothers you 'that' much. So what if theres demi-gods or 'gods' roaming around? At the end of the day, they're not allowed to god-mode, are they? no, they're restricted to what the power of their apps allow. No one being will ever be better than everyone else. A wise man once told me. "You do you, and have fun. "

That is what applies here.

Hmm not sure if I'm misunderstanding something or not but I think as long as the "outrageous" stuff happens stays in the history, why would it be a problem? Some people need other races or bigger events to happen so they have something affecting their character, something to work with?

I don't really see a problem with that, as long as they don't abuse the fact that they are gods, demons, random animals or whatever. It's gotta make sense though and not clash with the site lore, such as a non dragon slayer being raised by 10 dragons or something ('yknow what I mean?). Well those are my two cents. :/

Sayuno wrote:Hmm not sure if I'm misunderstanding something or not but I think as long as the "outrageous" stuff happens stays in the history, why would it be a problem? Some people need other races or bigger events to happen so they have something affecting their character, something to work with?

I don't really see a problem with that, as long as they don't abuse the fact that they are gods, demons, random animals or whatever. It's gotta make sense though and not clash with the site lore, such as a non dragon slayer being raised by 10 dragons or something ('yknow what I mean?). Well those are my two cents. :/

There isn't really any site lore and there's no issue with a non-slayer being raised by dragons. There's also no issue with slayers not being raised by dragons. Its whatever works and makes a good plot.

I could be raised by a dragon and be trained by the dragon as a 'dragoon' using a spear made from the dragon's fang and armor made from its scales....or something. No harm in it so why not lol

Oh really? Well then there isn't a point to this complaint I guess, lol.

I know I am new to this site, but I have been staff or admin on several previous boards for many years, and still am on another board I RP at. My experiences on those boards were pretty varied, and I think I can provide some input here despite having only been on this particular board a few days.

As far as site wide canon: This is, honestly, something that is and isn't that difficult to achieve. To be honest, it's actually not that difficult to have a site canon without it interfering with the players' individual stories. It's just about how you set it up. For instance, a board I am no longer at but admined for a solid five years or so had no official site canon, but there were huge events that 90% of the community acknowledged with their characters, while the 10% that didn't, didn't because they they didn't have to. It caused some issues occasionally, but overall it was a beautiful system.

It is difficult to do in the sense that it takes some time (and a fuck ton of patience) to put together stuff from the past. This is actually something we are currently working on doing on the other site I am staff at, and it's pretty much been an entire community project because it's just so much work. Now, what we did was focused on larger stories instead of trying to do every little thing. The excellent thing about it, though, is that it opens up a LOT of story opportunities and keeps a site from getting too stagnant for players because there are always new things for them to get involved in.

However, site canon isn't something that is really feasible on every site. While I personally don't think it's impossible (and I am very much a fan of linear canon story), I don't see it being implimented here. From what I can see this site is very heavily micromanaged by staff, which means they already have a ton of work on their plate. Retroactively adding a site canon and maintaining one is probably going to require hiring an entirely new section of staff to have people who focus solely on establishing and maintaining site lore, and not just staff but people who have been here long enough to know all the major stuff that happened well.

As far as specifically being aggrivated by characters portraying themselves as gods, demi-gods, etc... I mean my first question really is: what even constitutes as a god in a world of mages and dragons? Even aside from the fact that staff has to approve spells and such before they can be used, being a god doesn't necessarily mean you're a being with absolute power. I am still new to FT (only watched about halfway through the second season so far, currently on the Nirvana story arc), so I have no idea if they have already addressed stuff like gods in the show, but as far as I am aware godhood doesn't necessarily equal unlimited cosmic power. Now, many people might rp it that way, but gods and demons tend to talk themselves up and be a bit on the egotistical side, so that sounds about on par to me tbh.

Raising the dead... I don't have a problem with this, and there is a very clear reason why: the show already addresses resurrection. Now, it is frowned upon by the legal mages and basically anyone who is not blatantly evil, but they make it very clear that it is possible. And frankly, if it is possible in the show it should be possible here too, provided it makes sense for the character doing it. (Which again, staff already monitors those kind of powers and I don't see them approving something that isn't logical to the magic and rank of the character).

So I guess my tl;dr is: I can kind of see the concerns, but I think it's just a matter of perspective to see that these issues really aren't issues worth being upset over.