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    Neutral Grounds and an indepth of magic

    Dubhlainn
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    Post by Dubhlainn 29th May 2016, 6:40 am

    Hello guys Dubhlainn here, I'm here to lay down a suggestion thread about the Neutral Grounds.

    We know for a fact that spells cannot be manifested or materialized while inside the area right? What of Spells that are internalized in the body? Can they manifest in the body than outside?

    Also i would love it if the development team comes up with some reason why the neutral grounds is a non magical zone? We cannot use spells, that's the rule but what of magic that internalizes in the body? If the answer is no.... staff you guys just contradicted yourselves cause there's a WHOLE LOT of apps that involves magical internalization. Believe me.


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    Post by Cr1tikal 29th May 2016, 9:26 am

    Barring magic as a life source for a character, all magic is nullified.

    "A location where magic, lacrima, and even Etherion have no power over. The Neutral Grounds is the #1 importer and exporter of Non-magical Technology. A gigantic mega-city, if life without magic is what you want; the Neutral Grounds is the place for you."

    No where does it state that spells cannot be manifested or materialized. You literally just have no power there; it's a Null Zone. Seijin is the one that came up with it, there really is no need to add more.


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    Post by Rosetta Crawford 30th May 2016, 10:01 am

    THink of it as a null zone. Nobody has any magic power there. Or perhaps more accurately it is impossible to convert 'eternano' (the source of all magic) into anything. Its almost like you could feel the power inside you, but there is no way to connect to it so you can utilise that magic for ANYTHING.

    That's not to say it cancels out eternano (as that would kill anyone who has magic I think...if we go by how anti-magic particle work in canon) and it would kill magical creatures. You just can't 'utilise' eternano in any way, shape or form.


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    Post by Raiza 30th May 2016, 12:34 pm

    What about those who have biological magical changes? Such as Juvia?


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    Post by Rosetta Crawford 30th May 2016, 1:03 pm

    Juvia is made of water. However, that again is manipulating Eternano. As such whilst in the neutral grounds she would not be able to turn into water. She would be a solid form.


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    Post by Raiza 30th May 2016, 2:53 pm

    I used juvia as an example of what I meant, but not how I meant. I mean those that have forms like that, but not because of magic. I.e like a biological thing. but meh, no point trying to explain.


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    Post by Gisen Ceostra 30th May 2016, 3:38 pm

    You have to be more specific to get a proper answer. You're being rather vague and non descriptive on what you're trying to ask. Once you can give an example of the biological things, you can get an answer more suited to what you were looking for.


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    Post by Ember Wolf 30th May 2016, 3:49 pm

    I believe raiza meant non-magical and species specific characteristics. Say the neko lineage for example, to me it does not look magical or magically caused(caused by a virus moving in the brain). Because of that, it seems I can still transform freely in the neutral grounds because of the non-magical nature of my lineage. Would that be true or no?


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    Post by Gisen Ceostra 30th May 2016, 3:52 pm

    In my opinion, anything like that wouldn't be applicable in the NG. The same would most likely go for Grim Heresy members and their disguises and what not, if that even was magically created (I forget honestly... xD). But more over, I would think that no, such a thing as lineage transformations and what not are not usable there.


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    Post by Anastasia Isayev 31st May 2016, 12:39 pm

    The way I always saw the NG is the similar to being "Silenced" in an old school RPG. You still have your magic, you still have your MP, but you can't cast anything during your stay. That's sorta how I always RP'd in the Neutral Grounds or thought the Neutral Grounds ought to be RP'd


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    Post by Almyra Bys 1st June 2016, 1:25 pm

    Magic simply doesn't work in the neutral grounds. UAs stemming from it are deactivated and you can't cast spells. Magic items also won't work. I think an example Raiza might be referring to would be something I had on Emilia before I revamped her magic, which was increased health because her body had naturally grown tougher and her bones denser due to the massive forces they had to work with regularly, sort of like how a bone becomes stronger in a place where it was fractured. That basically happened with all of her bones everywhere. Continual healing of small fractures leaving them thicker and denser made her harder to hurt. That wouldn't be taken away in the neutral grounds, but say, her empowering herself with a bit of magic at all times to increase her strength would.


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    Post by Dubhlainn 2nd June 2016, 6:38 am

    Well I have a UA that gives Dubhlainn permanent boost in parameters.

    its non-magical in nature because some scientists messed up his biological make up.
    So yes, despite having all my magic abilities and spells shut down, I think being a super soldier has is perks XD. Glad I didn't focus on being immersed as a mage.


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    Post by Terrell Passmore 2nd June 2016, 4:13 pm

    Uhh… So does this mean Brennan simply can't enter the Neutral Grounds? His entire body is magical in nature, he's basically just living 'fire' bound to a human form by a group of four bracelets. Does Brennan just die if he enters the Neutral Grounds?
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    Post by Cr1tikal 2nd June 2016, 7:37 pm

    Aiyana IcyHot wrote:Barring magic as a life source for a character, all magic is nullified.

    "A location where magic, lacrima, and even Etherion have no power over. The Neutral Grounds is the #1 importer and exporter of Non-magical Technology. A gigantic mega-city, if life without magic is what you want; the Neutral Grounds is the place for you."

    No where does it state that spells cannot be manifested or materialized. You literally just have no power there; it's a Null Zone. Seijin is the one that came up with it, there really is no need to add more.

    Please read through the topic guys... Not fun being able to quote a post to answer a questions. ;-;


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