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    Haru-senpai
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    Discussion PVP

    Post by Haru-senpai 7th June 2017, 11:34 pm

    Could we add something where if a lower ranked player duels a higher ranked one, they gain XP of their rank? Up to A rank? The person they duel must be A-Rank or higher; and you can only gain XP from dueling that person once?

    Could give higher ranked players "something to do" and could really help out new players, who are attracted to our awesome free and dynamic take on things here or are just more PVP oriented in general.

    Player 1: Is B-Ranked
    Player 2: Is A-Ranked

    Player 1: Will gain B-Ranked XP from the duel.

    If even in Rank then both gain their Ranks worth of XP, but can't gain it again from dueling each other of course? Just something to think on. Cheers.


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    Filth
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    Discussion Re: PVP

    Post by Filth 8th June 2017, 7:09 am

    Honestly I think any time two players duel, if the battle meets certain quality standards they should gain XP equal to what a job of their rank would normally give them.


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    Discussion Re: PVP

    Post by Guest 8th June 2017, 12:35 pm

    If you want EXP for a PvP duel, make it a custom job.
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    Discussion Re: PVP

    Post by That Adopted Kid 8th June 2017, 4:45 pm

    ^ and the last time we had PvP giving EXP there were some people that just challenged new players in order to rank up (because all they did was stay around C rank to seal club till they hit B rank and then dropped off RPing with the characters), so while it could be a really cool system it was sort of abused. They didn't even duel the person multiple times they just kept fighting new people over and over and told them they get some EXP from it.

    Now if we could have say a judged PvP match that has a word count around the same as a job (maybe a bit lower because might be harder to match it) people could throw in some plot along with the fighting and that might work out, but the atmosphere of the forum shouldn't shift to just beating each other up all the time. At least that's what I'm pretty sure the big boss wants.


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    Discussion Re: PVP

    Post by Filth 8th June 2017, 6:00 pm

    That's what I meant. By standards. I agree you don't want a-holes writting duels that are like.

    I punch you.
    I punch you back.
    Give us exp now.

    But story focused PvP can be a great way to encourage players to step out of their bubble a little bit and RP with people they might not otherwise RP with. Plus it can encourage things like guild rivalries which (as long as the hostilities are kept strictly in character) are good for the site. The solution is to judge them similar to jobs. An easy way is to use things like post and word counts so that players are required to put in some effort. Also I suggested that each player get rewards proportionate to a job equal to their rank (so D rank mages would get D rank job exp) which would prevent farming and prevent higher level players from feeling like they were getting ripped off by playing with lower level players.


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    Discussion Re: PVP

    Post by Luna Jaeger 9th June 2017, 12:07 pm

    I have to agree with both what TAK is saying and what Filth is saying, they both would play off each other well, I think.


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    Discussion Re: PVP

    Post by Ardere Kasai 10th June 2017, 11:41 am

    Agreed with TAK and Filth.

    Though on the topic of making a job. You could make a very vague job that basically the only requirements are player 1 and player 2 making enough posts/wc, and they get exp based upon rank. This would also force them to add some story to the duel, cause fighting only lasts so long. But it also gives them the option to make any story they choose, and not feel limited by the job itself in any way. And the exp idea Heero is suggesting could be put into play. While I'm not a fan of jobs being the only thing for story, it could work.

    But I'm also not opposed to reopening an arena, and just overseeing the fights.


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