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    Buying immaculate summons and refined Requips

    Julius Seas
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    Post by Julius Seas 8th May 2017, 12:36 pm

    So it has been possible for a while to buy your secondary magic and I was wondering, why not also make the immaculate summons and refined requips an item in the magic shop? x3


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    Post by Cirven 8th May 2017, 12:44 pm

    Thinking this can be easily implemented, honestly.


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    DOPPO
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    Post by DOPPO 8th May 2017, 12:59 pm

    #ISupportThis


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    Post by Lestat 8th May 2017, 3:22 pm

    Sounds like a genius idea to me.


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    Post by Jozuma 10th May 2017, 12:26 pm

    Same, it seems like something that would be in the magic shop and provides an alternative for those who don't want to make that dive into a huge word count similarly to secondary magic.


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    Post by Cr1tikal 10th May 2017, 7:53 pm

    It was meant as something where because you RP'd for it that you got something better than normal. I'd rather keep it as something to RP for, rather than continue making everything on this forum buyable with jewels and watch it become pay-to-win.


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    Post by Noheme 11th May 2017, 12:44 am

    I do agree with Aiyana that it should be kept the way it is right now, but maybe lower the required WC when trying to acquire these things? Thread for obtaining immaculate summon is 6250 words while obtaining refined requip is 4000. Not sure why they're different in the first place, but it also seems a bit of an overkill when you place it against 1000 words sample you need for golden key or dragon slayer position. I also feel like there was a rule about player having to do those thread solo, unless that was changed, which can become a chore at such long word counts.


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    Post by Eric Everette 12th May 2017, 7:18 am

    I'd have to agree with Eris on this, Immaculate Summons take 6.25x more effort than Golden Keys to obtain, even if the keys are restricted to one per person you can still obtain more Golden Keys for plot by defeating another character that has a Golden Key whereas you can only have one Immaculate Summon no matter what.

    Being able to purchase an Immaculate Summon might be a bit over the top when attempting to try and even these things out, but by reducing the word count to being able to obtain the only Immaculate Summon you'll ever get does seem to be a better option to work around it. That being said if you end up going for a Golden Key you'd be competing against other players who would also be aiming for that key, however that doesn't seem to justify the 6250 minimum word count required for what could be your most powerful summon compared to the registration for a Golden Key of which you could obtain multiple of these Golden Keys compared to the singular Immaculate Summon.

    However, unlike Golden Keys, Immaculate Summons can be whatever you wish as long as it relates to your brand of summoning magic. Likewise Immaculate Summons have a reduced health pool and non-ability damage compared to Golden Keys, so what would be the point of going through all that effort for a less powerful yet customize-able variant of Golden Keys? For the plot it'd make more sense if you're enslaving a demon or convincing some sort of creature to fight for you, but if you're going for something similar to a Golden Key and it is available (eg: you want a giant sea monster for your greatest summon because your summoning magic revolves around the ocean. If Pieces is available you'd be able to attempt to register for that key and create an adaptation of Pieces that essentially is what you were looking for.) going for the Golden Key would be the better option. The only advantage that Immaculate Summons have over Golden Keys is that fact that if you go inactive your summon won't be taken away from you.

    So long story short, Immaculate Summons compared to Golden Keys just don't seem worth the effort they provide o3o


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