Improving Team Creation And Possible Organization Creation

Marceline Anicetus wrote:

Ten on a team is a bit excessive in my opinion; whereas, five is the perfect amount because it's a lot, but not too many that it make things hard. Besides, teams are meant for jobs, which jobs are typically only a max of 6 people at most. Teams are "group of players forming one side in a competitive game or sport," a.k.a parties, groups, squads, etc. Organizations, on the other hand, are "organized bod(ies) of people with a particular purpose, especially a business, society, association, etc," a.k.a companies, institutions, firms, corporations, etc. You don't need an organization to be officially registered on the site because it's not going to benefit things, it's just a way to loophole having more on a team to rank faster. They can be made just fine in character without the need to have them listed anywhere on the site because what good is an organization going to do? Nothing.

While I do think the number could be less to maybe six or seven, I do not think there is any problem with an organization being officially registered on the site since if they are done right they can have a prolong effect on the site. It also helps with the number of people wishing to create guilds and the like since the only way to be truly noticed on site at the moment as any force of power is to be in a guild and only in a guild. We could have a group of H-ranks working together wanting to destroy the world, but because they aren’t a guild they won’t be a deemed a threat to any source. If staff applies this as well, they could make guild creation much harder so that way people won’t be able to just get five people and to make a guild. This also limits the true amount of guilds flooding the site since people can actually do things. Also these groups wouldn't truly be able to loophole much more than is already available since they will just end up earning EXP at the same rate that other people on teams would, and I don't think there isn't anything wrong with people ranking up faster through the methods that are already there instead of giving free EXP for socials and the like. If we are talking about loopholes, the only true one that is left now is mentors which are a free ride to B rank and if loopholed right you can become An or S rank on it since you don’t have to take your exam as soon as you get enough EXP. Stay at C-rank and go on a number of A-rank jobs with your mentor and get your triple EXP and boom auto A-rank. Even with the larger group method, you would still earn EXP at the same rate as people who do jobs with the team. Along with this, higher ranked people on the site might not be a bad thing. PVP isn’t really relevant so honestly rank isn’t that much of a deal, to be honest for most folks it enables them to be somewhat relevant during events since a D-rank or C-rank won’t do anything in them besides sitting on the sidelines. But I digress.

Marceline Anicetus wrote:

The reason legal magi can only team with other legal magi of their guild or alliance guilds is because if you team with guildless characters, you can't determine whether they're a "legal" guildless or a "dark" guildless. Essentially, guildless magi, in a sense, are just "dark" magi that aren't bound by guilds because they can do whatever they want without the repercussions of the Magic Council. Whereas, legal magi are meant to be the "good" people, the ones who don't kill and actually are the "heroes" in a sense.

Onward to the part about where dark guildless, legal guildless, and guild alliances. I would like to focus on the dark guildless and legal guildless first, I would like to think there is a difference between all guildless members. However, if you haven’t become infamous through your action as a guildless wizard then I don’t think they should be banned from forming teams with legal wizards. If we are going to this degree on what the council thinks, it would basically say that all guildless wizards cannot do jobs with legal wizards since they are dark wizards from your train of thought. To guild alliances, I don’t think that should really influence team creation among guilds unless there is some sort of true animosity between two guilds. If the two guilds are in neutral standing then the formation of teams should be allowed.

Marceline Anicetus wrote:

And by making it a team, at any point in time, staff can disband it if they see it necessary.

It's just creating more work for yourself and staff.

The last part is where you said it would be more work for staff and on the players. It really wouldn’t be that much more work to be honest, because the usual rules still stand because you would only be allowed in one group or team. So players wouldn’t be able to be in multiple ones.

Personally, I am fine with it, it may be a tiny bit flawed right now (everything and everyone is flawed xD) But it would be good to see some plans put in place if this is ever decided.

I'm going to second what Lionel said. I like the post.

I don't mind the alignment part, I'm all for that.
My only problem is going to be with Organization as that feels as a means to 'circumvent' the need of having to create a guild. Which I do not agree with. I think a team consisting of 5 people is a bit much to be honest, let alone creating an organization that reaps the same benefits of 1.5x EXP for doing a job together (which is more than guild members get -- 1.25x). While I do like the idea, it isn't something I expect/nor want to see implemented as that devalues guilds.

@Sal: I know it is a bit flawed, Sal, but that is why it is just a suggestion and discussion too so if we can improve it and allow people to voice their concerns regarding it. I do think I might have asked for a bit too much with ten people so maybe reducing the amount to 7 or 8 would suffice since the member base on here.

@Raiza: I am glad you approve of the idea ^^ Thank you a ton for your support.

@Ana: I do see your concern for the fact that ‘organizations’ might 'circumvent' the need to make guilds or undermine them, but with the limited resources that they would have it wouldn’t happen. I did use the term organization since I know that this site is “plot focused mainly” and for that, I thought many people who did make a larger scale group would have goals in mind for them. One example is the group of people who were trying to recreate a guild from the anime or a group of legal mages and guildless could try to form S.H. I. E.L.D. But I digress, guilds have too many benefits that a simple group earning a bit more EXP would have. Even if ‘organizations’ are improved, they would just get more EXP as the only benefit. Guilds still have access to the user only boards, sub-forum creation, guild spells, guild positions that allow players to reach H-rank without paying, access to the guild shop to buy guild only supplies, no character limit pertaining to group numbers, and being recognized on site in the form of boards and such. I don’t think that organizations would ever circumvent the need to make guilds.

I feel like there's a possibility to treat Organizations along the lines of small guilds or potential guilds and even a story way to eventually rise up as a bigger guild like the ones we currently have. Sure they wouldn't have subforums, a group color, bank, etc. etc. and if people are really worried about EXP bonuses they could be lowered to 25% like a guild. However there's something alluring about the possibility and at the same time permits someone to test the potential for a guild without going for complete broke. I dunno, I guess I just like the story-ness of it. Admittedly I have few ideas what to give them in terms of a bonus to set it apart from having two teams be "Team: Organization team A" and "Team: Organization team B" name wise without them stepping into guild territory. Maybe they could simply have access to supply trains or buying weaker "guild spells" or "guild pet" type things? As an organization though they'd have to pay for them rather than receive them as a part of a startup cost.

I like the alignment idea, but organisations is stretching it. If there is a group of 10 members that are that keen on working together, they should form an official guild.